Nation of Earth

02/05/2010 - 22:59 fil: room is open

02/05/2010 - 23:05 Valkyri9: seems so ... formal...

02/05/2010 - 23:06 Valkyri9: :D so where is everyone?

02/05/2010 - 23:07 fil: um...

02/05/2010 - 23:07 Valkyri9: stuck in the blizzard I take it?

02/05/2010 - 23:08 fil: You, Gina and I are the only confirmed guests...

02/05/2010 - 23:08 Valkyri9: figgers :P

02/05/2010 - 23:09 fil: showing 5 in 'might attend'

02/05/2010 - 23:09 fil: 9 have declined

02/05/2010 - 23:10 fil: awaiting reply from 45

02/05/2010 - 23:10 Valkyri9: you'd think they'd nothing better to do in this weather

02/05/2010 - 23:10 fil: plus, I let Trish in Mich know, but she has company

02/05/2010 - 23:11 Valkyri9: ah

02/05/2010 - 23:11 fil: Yeah, who ordered the giant Slushie machine?

02/05/2010 - 23:12 Valkyri9: not I - but it's nice to watch now that I'm home after 3 near accidents

02/05/2010 - 23:12 fil: I was just out there

02/05/2010 - 23:12 Valkyri9: I'm an excellent defensive driver and I've got 4-wheel drive but it was not a good night to be driving

02/05/2010 - 23:12 fil: it didn't start snowing here until around 7

02/05/2010 - 23:13 Valkyri9: was more like 3 here

02/05/2010 - 23:13 fil: but that's on top of a saturating rain

02/05/2010 - 23:13 Valkyri9: ooo...not good

02/05/2010 - 23:16 fil: and it's still above freezing

02/05/2010 - 23:17 Valkyri9: yeh...like I said, nice to watch from inside

02/05/2010 - 23:17 fil: Cowboy Kev sed he'd try to make it

02/05/2010 - 23:18 Valkyri9: groovy

02/05/2010 - 23:19 fil: Kevin Hennessy @ Fil... Will make no promises but will try and attend FNCP @ NoE 21 hours ago

02/05/2010 - 23:19 Valkyri9: yah, he's been havin pc problems

02/05/2010 - 23:20 fil: so I herd

02/05/2010 - 23:21 fil: (intentional use of homonym)

02/05/2010 - 23:21 Valkyri9: :P

02/05/2010 - 23:33 Valkyri9: sleeping 9 month old on me

02/05/2010 - 23:35 fil: lucky you

02/05/2010 - 23:35 Valkyri9: gotta kill the lights, she's not sleeping easy

02/05/2010 - 23:36 fil: I only ever get cats -- and the occasional 36-year-old

02/05/2010 - 23:36 Valkyri9: :D

02/05/2010 - 23:36 fil: meaning yes, she's been married to me for roughly half her life

02/05/2010 - 23:39 Valkyri9: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtYgS2_S88Y

02/05/2010 - 23:50 Valkyri9: hmm...keep getting guests

02/05/2010 - 23:50 Valkyri9: people need to create an account dangit :P

02/05/2010 - 23:50 fil: I sent the link to 2 of my contacts just now

02/05/2010 - 23:51 Valkyri9: ah

02/05/2010 - 23:51 Valkyri9: if they just tried to follow the link they got a rejection notice

02/05/2010 - 23:51 fil: ic

02/05/2010 - 23:56 fil: hello Tom

02/05/2010 - 23:57 de Chardin: Yo all

02/05/2010 - 23:57 Valkyri9: and then there were 3

02/05/2010 - 23:57 de Chardin: One for all and all for one!

02/05/2010 - 23:57 de Chardin: Dumas

02/05/2010 - 23:57 de Chardin: not dumb ass

02/05/2010 - 23:58 fil: Who are you calling a Dumas?

02/05/2010 - 23:58 de Chardin: three musketeers

02/05/2010 - 23:58 de Chardin: its been used to describe how the cells of the neocortex are organized

02/05/2010 - 23:59 fil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POjtEt8bWms&feature=related

02/05/2010 - 23:59 de Chardin: Have we met Valkyri9?

02/05/2010 - 23:59 Valkyri9: I believe so :D

02/06/2010 - 00:00 fil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xhOgyYQiDc

02/06/2010 - 00:01 de Chardin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcpFqRsGU10

02/06/2010 - 00:01 de Chardin: That's me there.

02/06/2010 - 00:02 de Chardin: It's actually not a rotor as I've learned better. It's the Hotine vane assembly.

02/06/2010 - 00:02 fil: k

02/06/2010 - 00:03 de Chardin: can you enter text while its playing?

02/06/2010 - 00:03 fil: I believe so

02/06/2010 - 00:03 de Chardin: nope, not with Chrome

02/06/2010 - 00:04 de Chardin: it automatically paused

02/06/2010 - 00:04 de Chardin: Got me a Droid.

02/06/2010 - 00:04 de Chardin: The Motorola with the slide out keyboard.

02/06/2010 - 00:04 fil: right

02/06/2010 - 00:04 fil: I despise cellphones

02/06/2010 - 00:05 de Chardin: Recent report warns of "tsunami" of brain cancer in next 30 years.

02/06/2010 - 00:05 fil: wife got a new one tonight, it took an hour

02/06/2010 - 00:06 de Chardin: I use the speaker phone a lot and simply don't use the phone that much yet. Got a blue tooth headset that should be safer but still not all that great. Want to get a pneumatic type isolator headset if at all possible.

02/06/2010 - 00:09 de Chardin: I consider smart phones a likely candidate to run my social software idea amongst all the other ways, notebooks, desktops, etc., maybe the Xbox someday.

02/06/2010 - 00:09 fil: ...then we were headed out the door, and she paused to read a text from someone who was where I wa s taking her

02/06/2010 - 00:10 fil: our daughters have them too

02/06/2010 - 00:10 de Chardin: I went through 2 Palm 650s. The first one apparently somewhat permanently compromised the hearing of my left ear.

02/06/2010 - 00:10 fil: I thought the things were damned annoying BEFORE anyone in my family had one

02/06/2010 - 00:10 Valkyri9: desktop lost network for some reason - on netbook now

02/06/2010 - 00:11 de Chardin: There was a class action law suit I tried to join against Palm for damaged ears.

02/06/2010 - 00:11 fil: welcome back Mat

02/06/2010 - 00:12 Valkyri9: Mercury retrograde is still in force

02/06/2010 - 00:12 fil: it stands to reason that people should put anything that emits microwave radiation against thei r heads

02/06/2010 - 00:13 de Chardin: yup

02/06/2010 - 00:13 de Chardin: I understand we are basically bathing the planet in it.

02/06/2010 - 00:14 Valkyri9: you got it Toyota

02/06/2010 - 00:14 de Chardin: Big snow storm has got Virginia proclaiming emergency conditions before it hits.

02/06/2010 - 00:15 fil: West Virginia too -- but it's hit now

02/06/2010 - 00:15 de Chardin: Record snow fall is thought to happen.

02/06/2010 - 00:15 fil: Slush City

02/06/2010 - 00:15 fil: holding steady at 34 here

02/06/2010 - 00:16 de Chardin: It is a pleasant 70 degrees here now with no wind. Got the window open wide.

02/06/2010 - 00:16 fil: yeah but you'll get an 8.0 soon

02/06/2010 - 00:17 fil: Hait was a dry run

02/06/2010 - 00:17 fil: i

02/06/2010 - 00:17 de Chardin: I plan on moving to the San Luis Obispo area this summer.

02/06/2010 - 00:17 de Chardin: 8.0s are predicted here one each for both sides of the bay.

02/06/2010 - 00:17 fil: Is that farther from LA?

02/06/2010 - 00:17 fil: er wait

02/06/2010 - 00:17 de Chardin: Right between LA and SF.

02/06/2010 - 00:18 fil: you're in Silicon Valley

02/06/2010 - 00:18 fil: yeah, good move

02/06/2010 - 00:18 de Chardin: yup

02/06/2010 - 00:19 fil: I know someone there (SLO)

02/06/2010 - 00:19 de Chardin: Not only does SLO appear relatively safe from quakes, it has apparently stayed a mild ice free place for the last 200,000 years or so.

02/06/2010 - 00:19 de Chardin: Want to start our RCFE there.

02/06/2010 - 00:19 fil: no cold drinks then, bummer

02/06/2010 - 00:20 Valkyri9: heh

02/06/2010 - 00:20 de Chardin: Oh, we'll have plenty of refrigeration space. Want to power off wind and sun primarily.

02/06/2010 - 00:20 de Chardin: Residential Care Facility for the Elderly

02/06/2010 - 00:20 fil: ah

02/06/2010 - 00:21 de Chardin: Bargain price for the required class now at $200.

02/06/2010 - 00:21 de Chardin: I took it once.

02/06/2010 - 00:22 fil: I plan on a spectacular and fatal car crash before I need such a place

02/06/2010 - 00:22 fil: (on Mars)

02/06/2010 - 00:23 Valkyri9: don't worry, I suspect you'll have to fight for survival when DARPA's new immortals are unleashed

02/06/2010 - 00:24 fil: we are all immortal

02/06/2010 - 00:24 de Chardin: yes

02/06/2010 - 00:25 de Chardin: we got bored with it once and created a most challenging predicament with an apparent blank slate to feel again

02/06/2010 - 00:25 fil: challenging predicament, yes

02/06/2010 - 00:25 de Chardin: DARPA doesn't exist.

02/06/2010 - 00:26 de Chardin: Been thinking of making some Uncle Sam cartoons.

02/06/2010 - 00:26 fil: but dharma does

02/06/2010 - 00:27 fil: Didn't you hear? Sam died, a while back...

02/06/2010 - 00:27 de Chardin: would be a shame though, I realize the danger exists and agree Valkyri9, would be a shame to get destroyed for the sake of fantastic cartoon imagined falsehoods

02/06/2010 - 00:28 de Chardin: Defend the nation, destroy humanity

02/06/2010 - 00:28 Valkyri9: oh I'm not suggesting that it's going to end up like a cataclysm film, but I also think there's going to be some scary shit at some point in the not too distant future

02/06/2010 - 00:29 fil: Does anyone else think Bin Laden looked a bit like Uncle Sam?

02/06/2010 - 00:29 de Chardin: LOL

02/06/2010 - 00:29 de Chardin: Theres the cartoon!

02/06/2010 - 00:29 fil: I mean, put him in the costume, and...

02/06/2010 - 00:29 Valkyri9: heh

02/06/2010 - 00:29 Valkyri9: good point

02/06/2010 - 00:30 Valkyri9: brb, fixed internet on the desktop

02/06/2010 - 00:30 de Chardin: Wouldn't have to morph much.

02/06/2010 - 00:30 Valkyri9: easier to type on a full size keyboard

02/06/2010 - 00:30 Valkyri9:

02/06/2010 - 00:30 fil: (notice I used past tense)

02/06/2010 - 00:30 de Chardin: cool

02/06/2010 - 00:31 Valkyri9: there we go - now I'm a clone again

02/06/2010 - 00:31 de Chardin: Maybe like with dogs and their owners, enemies tend to look similar.

02/06/2010 - 00:31 de Chardin: enema mine

02/06/2010 - 00:32 Valkyri9: no enema's here thank you very much

02/06/2010 - 00:32 de Chardin: clone again? How many are there of you?

02/06/2010 - 00:33 Valkyri9: lots apparently - people keep telling me they are friends with or know someone who looks just like me in places I've never been around the world

02/06/2010 - 00:33 de Chardin: lol

02/06/2010 - 00:34 de Chardin: Okay, getting serious with the WVO now.

02/06/2010 - 00:34 fil: had a textbook in high school with a photo of a Russian dude getting married, loo ked just like me

02/06/2010 - 00:35 fil: awesome, West Virginia Oil

02/06/2010 - 00:35 fil: ha ha I know -- waste vegetable oil

02/06/2010 - 00:35 de Chardin: Found one web site that seems to lay it all out on the line: http://www.journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html

02/06/2010 - 00:36 de Chardin: Blue is running like a top on pure WVO.

02/06/2010 - 00:36 fil: I want to build an electric hot rod

02/06/2010 - 00:37 fil: a series of them, even

02/06/2010 - 00:37 de Chardin: Got about 40 gallons left in the back of the truck. Disconnected the extra fuel than there and am now planning on going with a single tank system using a kit from Germany.

02/06/2010 - 00:38 de Chardin: tank

02/06/2010 - 00:38 fil: if it's warm enough, you won't need diesel

02/06/2010 - 00:39 de Chardin: It'll be able to run diesel, biodiesel, or WVO no matter the weather without hurting the engine. Got to use only low acid WVO.

02/06/2010 - 00:39 Valkyri9: McWVO

02/06/2010 - 00:39 de Chardin: That web site explains it nicely.

02/06/2010 - 00:39 fil: just got another confirmed guest

02/06/2010 - 00:40 Valkyri9: they're confirmed when they actually show up ;)

02/06/2010 - 00:40 de Chardin: Do either of you have room for four 55 gallon barrels? Settlement seems to be the best way to filter the WVO.

02/06/2010 - 00:40 de Chardin: I want to get that together and use it and sell the extra.

02/06/2010 - 00:40 Valkyri9: no gots

02/06/2010 - 00:41 fil: confirmed on FAcebook

02/06/2010 - 00:41 de Chardin: I'm going to get the stuff to titrate test the WVO for acid content before I ever put it in my vehicles.

02/06/2010 - 00:42 de Chardin: Blue just loves old peanut oil.

02/06/2010 - 00:43 fil: I want to try an HHO/GEET system

02/06/2010 - 00:43 de Chardin: Does it split water?

02/06/2010 - 00:43 fil: using water 2 ways

02/06/2010 - 00:44 fil: 'HHO' is basically split water, yes

02/06/2010 - 00:44 de Chardin: water boarding from both ends?

02/06/2010 - 00:45 de Chardin: hmmmm, I am aghast at a hydrogen economy. Could lead to more noctilucent clouds which I think are bringing us this cold weather.

02/06/2010 - 00:45 fil: splitting into hydrogen and oxygen on-demand, with no need to separate

02/06/2010 - 00:45 de Chardin: splitting water probably is less dangerous though, less escaped free hydrogen

02/06/2010 - 00:45 de Chardin: on-demand sounds right.

02/06/2010 - 00:46 fil: ...then th e GEET adds water to the air/fuel mixture, so it expands into steam at cumbustion

02/06/2010 - 00:47 fil: ...significantly reducing fuel consumption

02/06/2010 - 00:48 de Chardin: The kits to make the one tank WVO systems include longer hotter glow plugs, finer spraying injectors with more pressure, preheating of the fuel and it is all automated.

02/06/2010 - 00:49 de Chardin: Probably improve the mileage maybe. I get about 14 or 15 mpg in the truck.

02/06/2010 - 00:49 de Chardin: solid 35 mpg with Blue

02/06/2010 - 00:50 fil: GEET will improve mileage on any ICE vehicle

02/06/2010 - 00:50 de Chardin: We are saving a lot on fuel with Blue. Cruised on the freeway just fine at over 70 today.

02/06/2010 - 00:50 de Chardin: Land Rover is getting money to build a hybrid turbine car

02/06/2010 - 00:51 de Chardin: burns any burnable liquid

02/06/2010 - 00:51 de Chardin: Now if they just had those ideal batteries that have been suppressed, we'd be sportin' 'round.

02/06/2010 - 00:52 fil: the future is electric, and when certain technologies are released from suppression that will become obvious

02/06/2010 - 00:52 de Chardin: Unlimited range electric dragsters

02/06/2010 - 00:53 de Chardin: Tesla automotive stopped producing their roadster

02/06/2010 - 00:53 de Chardin: Now working on a sedan.

02/06/2010 - 00:53 de Chardin: All electric.

02/06/2010 - 00:53 fil: no no...

02/06/2010 - 00:54 fil: The sedan is just the next model.

02/06/2010 - 00:54 de Chardin: apparently some weird shenanigans going on with that company

02/06/2010 - 00:54 de Chardin: maybe who killed the electric car is still operating

02/06/2010 - 00:54 fil: I doubt that

02/06/2010 - 00:55 fil: too close to 'the end'

02/06/2010 - 00:56 Valkyri9: http://gizmodo.com/5464320/improved-lithium-ion-batteries-deliver-10000-charges-20-year-lifespans

02/06/2010 - 00:56 fil: Before long 'free energy' will be releas ed...

02/06/2010 - 00:58 de Chardin: I just checked out the Tesla web site and I see no mention of curtailing the Roadster. Maybe that was just a rumor I saw.

02/06/2010 - 00:58 de Chardin: Everything is free. We share.

02/06/2010 - 00:59 fil: they just started producing RHD models of the Roadster for the UK

02/06/2010 - 00:59 de Chardin: 244 mile range. I bet that is a sweet ride.

02/06/2010 - 00:59 fil: imagine unlimited range

02/06/2010 - 01:00 de Chardin: RHD?

02/06/2010 - 01:00 fil: right-hand drive

02/06/2010 - 01:00 de Chardin: oh

02/06/2010 - 01:01 de Chardin: I want a tesserac in mine.

02/06/2010 - 01:03 de Chardin: With a clean beach, nice warm day and plenty of bunnies.

02/06/2010 - 01:03 fil: No seriously, imagine unlimited range in an electric vehicle...

02/06/2010 - 01:04 fil: ...with no battery pack. Nikola Tes la did that in 1931.

02/06/2010 - 01:04 de Chardin: Any body experiment with Faraday disks?

02/06/2010 - 01:05 de Chardin: I got a slab of copper the other day and plan on trying different magnetic field locations and spinning options.

02/06/2010 - 01:06 de Chardin: I also got 25 epoxy coated neodymium N45 magnets, 1/4" by 1/2"

02/06/2010 - 01:08 fil: If anyone doubts that, well, it's well-documented that he piloted remote-control model submarines in Central Park in 1896, so...

02/06/2010 - 01:08 de Chardin: Whoa, forgot I had a washer in my shirt pocket.

02/06/2010 - 01:08 de Chardin: Was goofing with my neodymiums and almost lost my shirt.

02/06/2010 - 01:09 de Chardin: Apparently Tesla said he was using coupled Faraday disks to power these things.

02/06/2010 - 01:10 de Chardin: I'm just going to try some experiments to thresh out the possible best configuration for those things.

02/06/2010 - 01:11 de Chardin: A paper I saw suggest Faraday discs demonstate immediate proof of Einstein's general relativity, which I find hard to believe but I'll check it out myself.

02/06/2010 - 01:13 de Chardin:

02/06/2010 - 01:14 de Chardin: It stated spinning the magnetic field about the disk did not produce electricity, only spinning the disk through the field.

02/06/2010 - 01:15 de Chardin: wow, took maybe 4 minutes for that last to post and the empty blank was done after

02/06/2010 - 01:16 fil: the server for this is in a pantry

02/06/2010 - 01:17 de Chardin: Hey, how's Stephen Hawkins? Wasn't he seriously ill?

02/06/2010 - 01:17 fil: no idea

02/06/2010 - 01:17 de Chardin: He helped with a Pink floyd song.

02/06/2010 - 01:19 fil: wonder if his work would suffer were he healed, walking and talking

02/06/2010 - 01:19 de Chardin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Leo74b3rqXQ

02/06/2010 - 01:19 Valkyri9: I suspect it would leave him less time to think

02/06/2010 - 01:25 fil: thinking is overrated

02/06/2010 - 01:26 Valkyri9: sorry guys, fallin asleep @ the keyboard here - this week wiped me out

02/06/2010 - 01:26 Valkyri9: I'm headin to bed - have a good night

02/06/2010 - 01:26 de Chardin: "It doesn't have to be like this. All we have to do is make sure we keep talking."

02/06/2010 - 01:26 de Chardin: night Mat

02/06/2010 - 01:27 fil: oh yeah

02/06/2010 - 01:28 fil: ...so here we are, talking

02/06/2010 - 01:28 de Chardin: I got the "Pop Out" maxed but there is still half the bottom screen blank.

02/06/2010 - 01:28 fil: yeah, I meant to mention that issue to Mat

02/06/2010 - 01:29 de Chardin: I'm going to finish looking at the Colbert report of last night and then maybe hit the sack mesilf.

02/06/2010 - 01:29 fil: chat window is a fixed height

02/06/2010 - 01:30 de Chardin: Would prefer to see a long stream

02/06/2010 - 01:30 de Chardin: less obtusion by long entries

02/06/2010 - 01:30 de Chardin: embedded videos for example

02/06/2010 - 01:30 de Chardin: take care fil

02/06/2010 - 01:30 fil: this chat feature is still very new to the site

02/06/2010 - 01:30 fil: expect improvements

02/06/2010 - 01:31 de Chardin: ty

02/06/2010 - 01:31 fil: nite Tom

02/06/2010 - 02:03 fil: room still open

02/06/2010 - 02:52 fil: great things are afoot

02/13/2010 - 00:27 fil: I t's Friday again...

02/13/2010 - 01:52 fil: perhaps a conference soon...

02/19/2010 - 22:38 fil: ready to begin a Friday Night conference

02/19/2010 - 23:06 George LoBuono: fil, are we live?

02/19/2010 - 23:06 fil: yes

02/19/2010 - 23:07 fil: good to see you here

02/19/2010 - 23:07 George LoBuono: Good, hopin Al and others show...

02/19/2010 - 23:07 George LoBuono: Topic?

02/19/2010 - 23:08 fil: anything at all, or...

02/19/2010 - 23:08 fil: I'd like to talk about human potential

02/19/2010 - 23:09 fil: specifically, our forgotten abilities

02/19/2010 - 23:10 George LoBuono: Try this (just added into my book: Here's how many human minds are cut off from their most phenomenal potentials. Every child is born innocent. However, some are hammered with elitist dogma—“we're special, the poor are losers; they're not our problem.” Such children have no idea what's happening to their minds and are told life is easier if they stick with a cold, opportunistic crowd that tends to brag about ripping off the commonality and manipulating petty losers. However, there's one all-important catch that such children don't see: they’re being blinded to the most basic, universal equivalency---the basis for all greater interactions. The moment a person feels into larger networks of mind, which wrap into the space all around us, he/she sees that the same (fractional) equivalency that elitist children are blinded to is the most important relationship of all. It literally IS the physics of all advanced societies. So, if we help such people comprehend the most basic, fractional physics (which define nearly every aspect of their being), they can leap beyond old world conventions and be part of phenomenally more advanced networks. Such networks only survive and share via equivalency. *It's a slightly more airy, expanded kind of identity and sensory relationship.

02/19/2010 - 23:11 fil: talking with Alfred via IM, have sent him the link to Bill Ryan's latest video

02/19/2010 - 23:12 fil: excellent

02/19/2010 - 23:12 George LoBuono: Can Alfred log on here?

02/19/2010 - 23:12 fil: theoretically

02/19/2010 - 23:13 fil: i've let him know you're here

02/19/2010 - 23:15 George LoBuono: Alfred may have news or concerns about how and where our contacts are going, at present

02/19/2010 - 23:16 fil: Are you being oblique, or is it me being obtuse?

02/19/2010 - 23:17 fil: (not quite sure I follow)

02/19/2010 - 23:17 George LoBuono: human contacts, withal

02/19/2010 - 23:18 George LoBuono: Hi Mat (sp?) Thoughts?

02/19/2010 - 23:20 fil: Did I miss something?

02/19/2010 - 23:20 fil: (not showing Mat in the list)

02/19/2010 - 23:20 George LoBuono: no, what's Alfred saying?

02/19/2010 - 23:20 fil: nothing at the moment

02/19/2010 - 23:21 George LoBuono: Vancouver is alight, must be fantastic

02/19/2010 - 23:21 fil: he hasn't said anything for about half an hour

02/19/2010 - 23:21 fil: yeah, that's where the good weather is

02/19/2010 - 23:22 George LoBuono: maybe if we tell him we'd like to hear his thoughts

02/19/2010 - 23:24 fil: he may be busy watching that video -- it's about an hour long

02/19/2010 - 23:27 fil: aha

02/19/2010 - 23:28 fil: he's calling Miriam

02/19/2010 - 23:28 George LoBuono: tell Alfred Salla can be abrupt when he doesn't get his way. The last time I disagreed with Salla and critiqued his alien categories, he slammed me then waxed formalistic.

02/19/2010 - 23:29 fil: hmmm... Someone I tried to contact years ago...

02/19/2010 - 23:29 fil: used to belong to a Yahoo group he headed

02/19/2010 - 23:30 fil: if I recall correctly, that is

02/19/2010 - 23:30 George LoBuono: Alfred and Salla just had a spat I got a note about in email. Over Mars, Basagio, etc.

02/19/2010 - 23:30 fil: Basiago's information is hard to trust

02/19/2010 - 23:31 George LoBuono: How do you see human potential, in the current context?

02/19/2010 - 23:31 fil: My personal feeling is that some gaps in his memory have been filled with fantasy...

02/19/2010 - 23:32 George LoBuono: re the opener topic: The regime here seems to want to stifle human potential, to the extent that it propagates destruction and low culture. There is no substitute for honesty.

02/19/2010 - 23:32 fil: Not that he didn't experience much of what he remembers, but that his memory has been manipulated in an effort to make him seem less sane.

02/19/2010 - 23:33 George LoBuono: What was the mind control story that Basagio admitted?

02/19/2010 - 23:33 fil: Ah, but the honest man quickly becomes unpopular...

02/19/2010 - 23:34 fil: His story is more about time travel than anything else...

02/19/2010 - 23:35 fil: ...and perhaps he has not taken the mind control factor seriously enough.

02/19/2010 - 23:35 George LoBuono: I know the outlines, but Salla alleges Basagio admitted being mind controlled at some point

02/19/2010 - 23:35 fil: perhaps

02/19/2010 - 23:36 fil: the story is not fresh enough in my memory

02/19/2010 - 23:36 George LoBuono: Think Alfred is in on this conf? Or diverted?

02/19/2010 - 23:37 fil: At the moment I'm showing 2 guests on the site...

02/19/2010 - 23:38 George LoBuono: Do you see effective avenues for moving issues into public awareness, soon?

02/19/2010 - 23:39 fil: That's one of the things I'd like to discuss.

02/19/2010 - 23:40 fil: in fact I've been trying to figure that out for about 6 years

02/19/2010 - 23:41 fil: I think Joe Stack helped, just a little bit, though I don't approve of the method

02/19/2010 - 23:41 George LoBuono: My wife and kids just showed up, now must go to dinner.

02/19/2010 - 23:41 fil: Can you return?

02/19/2010 - 23:45 fil: ...awaiting more participants...

02/20/2010 - 00:53 fil: away, but should return in about 20 minutes

02/20/2010 - 01:16 rockyward: Here!

02/20/2010 - 01:17 fil: hang on...

02/20/2010 - 01:17 rockyward: Gotcha

02/20/2010 - 01:20 fil: hi

02/20/2010 - 01:20 rockyward: Evening!

02/20/2010 - 01:21 fil: ...just a couple more minutes...

02/20/2010 - 01:24 fil: ..and, ready

02/20/2010 - 01:25 fil: you missed George

02/20/2010 - 01:26 rockyward: So sorry, busy night on this end!

02/20/2010 - 01:27 fil: it's okay -- feel lucky to have anyone show up at all

02/20/2010 - 01:29 rockyward: I thought for sure you'd have more peeps. This is such a wonderful venue!

02/20/2010 - 01:29 fil: it'll catch on

02/20/2010 - 01:30 rockyward: It certainly isn't for a lack of trying on your part. I can tweet and FB this if it would help.

02/20/2010 - 01:30 fil: trying to schedule at least one conference next week, among our newest members

02/20/2010 - 01:31 fil: Sure!

02/20/2010 - 01:32 rockyward: Cool! I'll work on getting your message out tonight! Two teet accounts plus FB, we should be able to get some results!

02/20/2010 - 01:35 fil: have switched browsers -- maybe Chrome will work better

02/20/2010 - 01:36 fil: so far so good

02/20/2010 - 01:36 rockyward: Let me know how you like it. I farted around with Chrome before but not enough to really have an opinion yet.

02/20/2010 - 01:38 fil: it may just be that Firefox was overworked -- too many tabs

02/20/2010 - 01:39 rockyward: Oh damn, you too? Yep, I've got FF open with five tabs and Opera with four tabs...ah yes, to be a computer geek!

02/20/2010 - 01:40 rockyward: FB just sucks my dial up bandwidth!

02/20/2010 - 01:41 rockyward: Ok, both teet accounts and FB updated with your site link

02/20/2010 - 01:41 fil: thanks

02/20/2010 - 01:42 rockyward: I still plan on having Boo take a pic of me wearing the T you sent me a few years ago! Bad weather and a five year old cell phone camera thingy...LOL

02/20/2010 - 01:44 fil: Do you wear it often?

02/20/2010 - 01:45 rockyward: Oh hell yeah! Folks ask me about it all of the time! I try to explain it to them. Most " get it."

02/20/2010 - 01:45 fil: cools

02/20/2010 - 01:48 rockyward: Let's see what kind of "fall out" we get from my posts! I really do admire you for your dedication and faith in man kind!

02/20/2010 - 01:48 fil: we are capable of much, much more than we realize

02/20/2010 - 01:49 rockyward: Indeed, my friend.

02/20/2010 - 01:50 fil: I've decided to write a book, a different one than the one I've talked about

02/20/2010 - 01:50 fil: non-fiction, "Working Backwards From the Future" is the working title

02/20/2010 - 01:51 rockyward: Good for you! I'm sure what ever you decide to write about will be an inspiration for many! I like the title already Phil!

02/20/2010 - 01:51 fil: hey thanks

02/20/2010 - 01:55 rockyward: Sometimes, folks that put their souls and butts on the line don't really get to be told how important their work is. So here is my big fatty pat on the back for you....while you are still buried in snow...LOL! Been checking out your FB pix. I feel like crap because I'm sitting here in a wife beater T and shorts!

02/20/2010 - 02:03 rockyward: Already got two hits on FB!

02/20/2010 - 02:04 fil: "2 people like this"

02/20/2010 - 02:05 fil: 3 now

02/20/2010 - 02:08 rockyward: Sweet!! Keep her going!!

02/20/2010 - 02:08 fil: I'm about damn tired of this cold

02/20/2010 - 02:09 rockyward: Get your butt out here and visit me in AZ! I've got some wife beater shirts to share and a nice guest room!

02/20/2010 - 02:10 fil: but, I've always said that if it's cold I would prefer there to be snow

02/20/2010 - 02:11 rockyward: Call me an AZ snow sissy! It is beautiful, I just can't deal with the cold!

02/20/2010 - 02:11 fil: Notice how nice the weather is in Vancouver?

02/20/2010 - 02:12 rockyward: Weather Mod

02/20/2010 - 02:15 fil: part of me wants to move to Baja

02/20/2010 - 02:18 rockyward: Not too far away from me Phil. Been looking at some property in Costa Rica. I can speak a little bit of Spanish and can pick out every fifth word on Univision!

02/20/2010 - 02:19 fil: Gonna be tough for me. They talk too fast.

02/20/2010 - 02:20 fil: understandably so, though, since they have to use so many more words to say anything

02/20/2010 - 02:23 rockyward: Ah yes, adjectives after the nouns but they have very specific words for folks. But that is the fun part!

02/20/2010 - 02:25 fil: just heard from Cowboy/JD

02/20/2010 - 02:25 fil: (he won't be joining us, tonight)

02/20/2010 - 02:27 rockyward: Nope, we had a kind of falling out several months back. Randy got in our group and starting calling everyone names and just being flat out nasty. JD tried to pick up the slack but I had my fill. As did many others.

02/20/2010 - 02:28 fil: worlds collide

02/20/2010 - 02:30 rockyward: Indeed. Sometimes on a very sad plain..

02/20/2010 - 02:36 fil: just responded

02/20/2010 - 02:37 rockyward: should I leave now?

02/20/2010 - 02:38 fil: only if you want to

02/20/2010 - 02:38 fil: ask me something

02/20/2010 - 02:39 fil: ...else

02/20/2010 - 02:39 rockyward: When does a falling out pass time and hurt?

02/20/2010 - 02:39 fil: when you're ready

02/20/2010 - 02:40 rockyward: good answer!

02/20/2010 - 02:43 fil: Caring about someone often means not being happy about who he or she is partnered with.

02/20/2010 - 02:45 fil: the site looks better in Chrome

02/20/2010 - 02:46 rockyward: Guess I'm not ready then. I put myself out there just like you do and it's like a kick in the stomach when someone betrays you. I want everyone to find love and I don't care where it is, or who its with, but I don't like mind fucks.

02/20/2010 - 02:47 fil: we all have our albatrosses

02/20/2010 - 02:49 rockyward: send me link to your site in Chrome!

02/20/2010 - 02:50 fil: Are you drunk?

02/20/2010 - 02:50 fil: ...or just being silly?

02/20/2010 - 02:52 rockyward: Introspecting and my dial up is sucking ass! LOL!

02/20/2010 - 02:57 rockyward: Looks like I said something wrong here.

02/20/2010 - 02:57 fil: ?

02/20/2010 - 03:00 fil: About the T-shirt photo... Quality doesn't matter. Just get a shot and send it.

02/20/2010 - 03:08 fil: Calling it a night. Let's do this again soon.