Brian O’Leary (B’OL): Hi. Hello
everybody. It’s good to be talking with you again, Bill,
and to hear you’re reading Wade, because certainly both
Wade and I have had parallel pathways of discovery, of stepping
outside of the box of mainstream thinking. It’s taken
quite a while, and it can be a very painful process. It’s
a process that the general public now is, I think, beginning
to awaken to.
In answer to your question, Bill, imagine a world where we
have these, say, little 10-kilowatt power-packs that you can
put in your circuit-breaker box or under the hood of your car.
The world would change overnight. Let’s say we made two
or three billion of these...
Now, I’m not saying that I necessarily advocate doing
this under the system we now have. And that, of course, then
begs the question of political and economic control, and some
of the reasons why this technology has been so suppressed.
And believe me, Wade and I have personally had many, many experiences
around that since our own awareness became more pronounced.
So what I see happening is that this new world -- as long
as the governments of the world and the corporations of the
world change systemically--and that’s been my plea...
Practical intentions lead to danger. Changing the energy paradigm is the important goal.
Are there videos and/or explicit diagrams of the motor and the heat pump Wade mentions? I did not see any links via his web site, no pictures.
Have read more at Wade's site and I concur in many of my own findings with much of his own but so much, me thinks there is a high probability of errors. I do question his trust in some sources of information.
Brian O'Leary seems to be looking more at the sociological aspects. “The consensus among the so-called progressives is still a complete denial about the possibility of free energy.” World is controlled by those who do not want it to happen. So what should we do?
Here is what I think. We need to find and deploy an information handling process whereby humanity gains a rational viable social system. Sound like a big challenge? Sociology is the least developed science. There is room for some significant discovery. It just remains to be seen if we can find what we need and make it available successfully before our options are too few. Fermi's paradox as stated by Heinlein, “Does intelligent life survive its own information explosion?” I think we are going to find out for our own font very soon..
Both the motor and the heat pump designs are explained pretty well on Wade's site, and there are a few diagrams and photos (if you follow the right links) -- I know, it's easy to get lost on that site, but trust me.
The 'motor' is like a steam engine in some ways, but is more of an hydraulic pump system with a heat source. It eliminates the high pressure boiler of a steam engine, so it's a lot safer. In an automotive application, the system includes an hydraulic motor for each wheel. As described, it sounds extremely efficient to me.
The heat pump uses vast collectors heated by the Sun and a MUCH larger amount of coolant than conventional designs. It basically marries passive solar power with the operation of 'reverse refrigeration' to heat a home very efficiently.
Putting the two together? I'm not sure how the systems are connected or what results, exactly, but it seems to me the heat from the heat pump could be used instead of external combustion to power the hydraulic system, which could in turn run a generator, the electricity from which would power the heat pump -- and there might be excess electricity. Alternatively, the whole thing becomes a single system (with hydraulic pressure pumping the coolant, one way or another) from which both heat AND electricity are extracted.
While I can't see it being more than a great way to make use of solar heat, and possibly without the need for any electronics to be involved, it is still impressive if not 'free energy' per se. I really can't speak for what such a system might do, and respect Wade's stance in not revealing much about it.
Regardless, the heat pump itself was enough to get attention, was way too efficient for the "Big Boys'" liking. If marrying it with Mr. Mentor's Motor (system) creates energy independence, well, 'they' can't have that. Of course both active and passive solar are already out of the bag, nothing 'they' can do about it, but even if the 'motor'/heat pump combination is nothing more than an alternative, 'they' can't stand competition.
Considering what happens to people when they merely try to promote more efficient systems, it is quite understandable when someone with experience is reluctant to name names and give details. My own father's life was ruined over his knowledge of overunity circuitry (that ruination perhaps beginning in 1970 or earlier, his knowledge of such things likely predating my birth -- among other things was Mom packing us all up and leaving him in 1971)...
Sure, you could say that Dad was simply a drunk who had an affair, and then suffered quite a bit of bad luck afterward (including the debilitating neurological effects from an 'experimental anti-alcoholism drug') -- and dying at the age of 51 from 'lung cancer' in a Veterans' Administration hospital is, yes, sad, but not suspect. You could say it is a coincidence that he happened to be working as an electrical engineer at Westinghouse while overunity circuits were wreaking havoc with Minuteman missles... I will beg to differ.
Yes, both Brian and Wade are now focussing on the sociological -- having exhausted other avenues.
The technology? You might be better off, within the current environment, not knowing how it works. I myself am neither scientist nor scholar, but have a certain amount of intuitive grasp. It's real. All you really have to do is recognize the existence of flying saucers and try to think about how they work. Aternatively, you can experiment with the leads of an analog multimeter and find apparent instances of negative resistance, as I have done. Unseen energy? Can you SEE electricity? Can you explain how it works?
Tesla understood things that others did not, and some of those others happened to be the ones who laid down the framework of electrical engineering. Mainstream EE theory ignores a full half of the model Tesla worked with. Nikola Tesla demonstrated 'free energy' with an automobile in 1931.
Can you imagine how different our history would have been, and where we would be today, if his work had been embraced instead of (with extreme prejudice) suppressed? Or even if his predecessors' work had been fully understood and handed down?
The Earth herself generates an electrical charge, which was harnessed with 'Earth batteries' in the early days of the telegraph system. Go ahead, test for microvoltage between, say, metal tent stakes...
If you ask me, then yes, at least some of us will survive our own information explosion -- and I agree, we'l find out soon enough. From my perspective, there is plenty of room for cautious optimism.
Quote from the Introductionto one of the oh-so-many very long pages on Wade's site:
"As Dennis attained national visibility with
his free energy promotion, numerous people approached us who had tried similar
ventures, and we were told nightmarish stories of being wiped
out by conspiratorial activities. Kangaroo courts, prison and murder; threatening
phone calls in the night and hiding from the murderers were common tales, the
kind that few Americans hear first-hand. It became obvious that the energy industry has maintained its technological monopoly
by using extremely dirty tactics. It is one thing to hear the tales; it is quite
another to live through them."
To add to what I said earlier about my father (Kenneth Deane Smith):
I got to know him much better long after his passing than I ever had a chance to during his life. Anyone can doubt that I ever had any kind of communication with him as a spirit, and point out that the human mind is capable of very specific and elaborate delusions, but it's not like I'm going to try to tell you he appeared to me as a visual entity and we had long conversations in English. I would feel his presence from time to time, when thinking or reading or writing about certain things, and get a gentle understanding from his perspective. Again, you could chalk it up to imagination -- but for me it was real.
We (my 4 brothers and my sister, our mother and I) left Dad when I was 4 -- which was the year of my earliest memories. The divorce wasn't final for many years afterward, and in the interim Dad had moved to Parkersburg, sometimes staying with us (this was after he had been given the 'experimental' drug that caused neurological damage, saddling him with slurred speech and a bit of a palsy -- he always, ironically, appeared drunk because of a drug that was supposed to combat alcoholism). He never stayed with us for long, and he died when I was only 19. He was hardly ever around. My oldest brother (more than 12 years older) became a father figure, despite not being around much himself.
On my 12th birthday Dad managed to get one of my brothers to drop me off at his apartment for a visit. As a gift he had a $100 bill stashed in his freezer ('cold cash', ha ha). Looking back, I can tell that he greatly regretted his lack of connection with me in particular, as I was probably the one among the 6 of us that he could relate to the most... That was the day that he showed me a circuit model.
It was only a model, and not a complete circuit, because the components were not easy for him to get. There were placeholders... He said it was important, and began to try to explain it, but of course at 12 I didn't even know what a diode was, so he eventually gave up.
To his credit, I do not hold the opinion that he was ever an actual alcoholic. In the late Sixties and early Seventies it was fashionable to drink, and I bet there was someone there encouraging him to drink and manipulating him into hooking up with a mistress -- who herself was probably paid to play a part in his downfall. While a habit of drinking can lead to a physical dependence, and that may fall into the definition of 'alcoholism', I do not feel that he was that mindless (I'm married to a true alcoholic, and am a daily witness of the mindlessness of the condition).
I don't blame him one bit for getting drunk as often as he could, considering how his life had been ruined. If people assume you're drunk anyway (because of neurological damage), you might as well DRINK. Right?
Apparently he never stopped trying to tell people about overunity, and the implications, and how his life had been ruined because of his knowledge. Yes he was a smoker, and led a bum's life in his later years, but I don't buy that lung cancer took him at the early age of 51. I can accept that he had health problems that led him to seek the assistance of a Veteran's Administration hospital -- but his admittance there was a convenient opportunity for him to be silenced forever...
...or so 'they' thought. They didn't count on his youngest son putting the pieces together.
Even if he DID succomb to lung cancer at 51, for real, he was a broken man -- and broken, it must be said, by the ESTABLISHMENT. Bastards. Ass fucking HOLES. Metaphor? He would have been better off in prison, actually being fucked up the ass. I'm sure 'they' would have liked it if they had been able to send him to prison for something, to further discredit him. I'm sure he presented a real problem for them, broken and disabled yet still trying to speak out. He had to go.
This was over overunity, not even 'real' free energy.
The morning Dad died, I awoke from a dream in which there was a very old radio tuned into a news broadcast, and the only part of it I caught was "Kenneth Smith, dead at 51..." I was in my first semester of college, living in a dorm. I got up and went to the shower, only to have my roommate interrupt it with an important phone call. It was my oldest brother, telling me Dad had died. I said, "I know..."
There was a conspiracy against me being BORN. After the youngest of my siblings was delivered, in late 1962, my mother was strongly discouraged against having any more children. During 1966 she hid the fact of her pregnancy with me until it was 'too late' for her doctor to recommend an abortion. I'm only here, in this body, because of her defiance -- and I'll have to thank her for that, again.
It's too bad she was never clued in, never knew. She met Dad in high school in the early Fifties, must have been impressed with his intellect and integrity as well as his good looks, but all too soon his work came under the perview of 'national security'. He couldn't tell her, or anyone, too much about what he did.
In case you're curious, Dad looked like a cross between Humphrey Bogart and Walter Matthau.
He was a minor player, a former Air Force man working for a major military contractor, plying his trade as an electrical engineer. If he had learned some things and had a conscience, and actively tried to sabotage the Minuteman program, good on him. After his wife and kids had left him, I can imagine that he felt he didn't have much else to lose, and started making noises. It's no surprise what happened to him after that.
"In the transcript below, I have provided links to the
broader discussion of the subjects that the interview touched upon, and edited
out many of the “you knows” and similar asides. If you want to hear them all,
they are in the audio file. Editing them out makes it easier to read, in my opinion.
I also added some footnotes to provide more context, cleaned up the grammar a
little and made some corrections. My brain usually far outpaces my mouth, so
what comes out can be slurred."
Comments
transcript
A transcript of the interview is now available: http://projectcamelot.org/wade_frazier_interview_transcript.html
Excerpt:
everybody. It’s good to be talking with you again, Bill,
and to hear you’re reading Wade, because certainly both
Wade and I have had parallel pathways of discovery, of stepping
outside of the box of mainstream thinking. It’s taken
quite a while, and it can be a very painful process. It’s
a process that the general public now is, I think, beginning
to awaken to.
In answer to your question, Bill, imagine a world where we
have these, say, little 10-kilowatt power-packs that you can
put in your circuit-breaker box or under the hood of your car.
The world would change overnight. Let’s say we made two
or three billion of these...
Now, I’m not saying that I necessarily advocate doing
this under the system we now have. And that, of course, then
begs the question of political and economic control, and some
of the reasons why this technology has been so suppressed.
And believe me, Wade and I have personally had many, many experiences
around that since our own awareness became more pronounced.
So what I see happening is that this new world -- as long
as the governments of the world and the corporations of the
world change systemically--and that’s been my plea...
Very good post, thanks a lot.
"Talking about a revolution here." Brian O'Leary
Practical intentions lead to danger. Changing the energy paradigm is the important goal.
Are there videos and/or explicit diagrams of the motor and the heat pump Wade mentions? I did not see any links via his web site, no pictures.
Have read more at Wade's site and I concur in many of my own findings with much of his own but so much, me thinks there is a high probability of errors. I do question his trust in some sources of information.
Brian O'Leary seems to be looking more at the sociological aspects. “The consensus among the so-called progressives is still a complete denial about the possibility of free energy.” World is controlled by those who do not want it to happen. So what should we do?
Here is what I think. We need to find and deploy an information handling process whereby humanity gains a rational viable social system. Sound like a big challenge? Sociology is the least developed science. There is room for some significant discovery. It just remains to be seen if we can find what we need and make it available successfully before our options are too few. Fermi's paradox as stated by Heinlein, “Does intelligent life survive its own information explosion?” I think we are going to find out for our own font very soon..
here I go again
Both the motor and the heat pump designs are explained pretty well on Wade's site, and there are a few diagrams and photos (if you follow the right links) -- I know, it's easy to get lost on that site, but trust me.
The 'motor' is like a steam engine in some ways, but is more of an hydraulic pump system with a heat source. It eliminates the high pressure boiler of a steam engine, so it's a lot safer. In an automotive application, the system includes an hydraulic motor for each wheel. As described, it sounds extremely efficient to me.
The heat pump uses vast collectors heated by the Sun and a MUCH larger amount of coolant than conventional designs. It basically marries passive solar power with the operation of 'reverse refrigeration' to heat a home very efficiently.
Putting the two together? I'm not sure how the systems are connected or what results, exactly, but it seems to me the heat from the heat pump could be used instead of external combustion to power the hydraulic system, which could in turn run a generator, the electricity from which would power the heat pump -- and there might be excess electricity. Alternatively, the whole thing becomes a single system (with hydraulic pressure pumping the coolant, one way or another) from which both heat AND electricity are extracted.
While I can't see it being more than a great way to make use of solar heat, and possibly without the need for any electronics to be involved, it is still impressive if not 'free energy' per se. I really can't speak for what such a system might do, and respect Wade's stance in not revealing much about it.
Regardless, the heat pump itself was enough to get attention, was way too efficient for the "Big Boys'" liking. If marrying it with Mr. Mentor's Motor (system) creates energy independence, well, 'they' can't have that. Of course both active and passive solar are already out of the bag, nothing 'they' can do about it, but even if the 'motor'/heat pump combination is nothing more than an alternative, 'they' can't stand competition.
Considering what happens to people when they merely try to promote more efficient systems, it is quite understandable when someone with experience is reluctant to name names and give details. My own father's life was ruined over his knowledge of overunity circuitry (that ruination perhaps beginning in 1970 or earlier, his knowledge of such things likely predating my birth -- among other things was Mom packing us all up and leaving him in 1971)...
Sure, you could say that Dad was simply a drunk who had an affair, and then suffered quite a bit of bad luck afterward (including the debilitating neurological effects from an 'experimental anti-alcoholism drug') -- and dying at the age of 51 from 'lung cancer' in a Veterans' Administration hospital is, yes, sad, but not suspect. You could say it is a coincidence that he happened to be working as an electrical engineer at Westinghouse while overunity circuits were wreaking havoc with Minuteman missles... I will beg to differ.
Yes, both Brian and Wade are now focussing on the sociological -- having exhausted other avenues.
The technology? You might be better off, within the current environment, not knowing how it works. I myself am neither scientist nor scholar, but have a certain amount of intuitive grasp. It's real. All you really have to do is recognize the existence of flying saucers and try to think about how they work. Aternatively, you can experiment with the leads of an analog multimeter and find apparent instances of negative resistance, as I have done. Unseen energy? Can you SEE electricity? Can you explain how it works?
Tesla understood things that others did not, and some of those others happened to be the ones who laid down the framework of electrical engineering. Mainstream EE theory ignores a full half of the model Tesla worked with. Nikola Tesla demonstrated 'free energy' with an automobile in 1931.
Can you imagine how different our history would have been, and where we would be today, if his work had been embraced instead of (with extreme prejudice) suppressed? Or even if his predecessors' work had been fully understood and handed down?
The Earth herself generates an electrical charge, which was harnessed with 'Earth batteries' in the early days of the telegraph system. Go ahead, test for microvoltage between, say, metal tent stakes...
If you ask me, then yes, at least some of us will survive our own information explosion -- and I agree, we'l find out soon enough. From my perspective, there is plenty of room for cautious optimism.
Yes We Can.
Why not?
a quote that may help, and some other (important) stuff
Quote from the Introduction to one of the oh-so-many very long pages on Wade's site:
"As Dennis attained national visibility with
his free energy promotion, numerous people approached us who had tried similar
ventures, and we were told nightmarish stories of being wiped
out by conspiratorial activities. Kangaroo courts, prison and murder; threatening
phone calls in the night and hiding from the murderers were common tales, the
kind that few Americans hear first-hand. It became obvious that the energy industry has maintained its technological monopoly
by using extremely dirty tactics. It is one thing to hear the tales; it is quite
another to live through them."
To add to what I said earlier about my father (Kenneth Deane Smith):
I got to know him much better long after his passing than I ever had a chance to during his life. Anyone can doubt that I ever had any kind of communication with him as a spirit, and point out that the human mind is capable of very specific and elaborate delusions, but it's not like I'm going to try to tell you he appeared to me as a visual entity and we had long conversations in English. I would feel his presence from time to time, when thinking or reading or writing about certain things, and get a gentle understanding from his perspective. Again, you could chalk it up to imagination -- but for me it was real.
We (my 4 brothers and my sister, our mother and I) left Dad when I was 4 -- which was the year of my earliest memories. The divorce wasn't final for many years afterward, and in the interim Dad had moved to Parkersburg, sometimes staying with us (this was after he had been given the 'experimental' drug that caused neurological damage, saddling him with slurred speech and a bit of a palsy -- he always, ironically, appeared drunk because of a drug that was supposed to combat alcoholism). He never stayed with us for long, and he died when I was only 19. He was hardly ever around. My oldest brother (more than 12 years older) became a father figure, despite not being around much himself.
On my 12th birthday Dad managed to get one of my brothers to drop me off at his apartment for a visit. As a gift he had a $100 bill stashed in his freezer ('cold cash', ha ha). Looking back, I can tell that he greatly regretted his lack of connection with me in particular, as I was probably the one among the 6 of us that he could relate to the most... That was the day that he showed me a circuit model.
It was only a model, and not a complete circuit, because the components were not easy for him to get. There were placeholders... He said it was important, and began to try to explain it, but of course at 12 I didn't even know what a diode was, so he eventually gave up.
To his credit, I do not hold the opinion that he was ever an actual alcoholic. In the late Sixties and early Seventies it was fashionable to drink, and I bet there was someone there encouraging him to drink and manipulating him into hooking up with a mistress -- who herself was probably paid to play a part in his downfall. While a habit of drinking can lead to a physical dependence, and that may fall into the definition of 'alcoholism', I do not feel that he was that mindless (I'm married to a true alcoholic, and am a daily witness of the mindlessness of the condition).
I don't blame him one bit for getting drunk as often as he could, considering how his life had been ruined. If people assume you're drunk anyway (because of neurological damage), you might as well DRINK. Right?
Apparently he never stopped trying to tell people about overunity, and the implications, and how his life had been ruined because of his knowledge. Yes he was a smoker, and led a bum's life in his later years, but I don't buy that lung cancer took him at the early age of 51. I can accept that he had health problems that led him to seek the assistance of a Veteran's Administration hospital -- but his admittance there was a convenient opportunity for him to be silenced forever...
...or so 'they' thought. They didn't count on his youngest son putting the pieces together.
Even if he DID succomb to lung cancer at 51, for real, he was a broken man -- and broken, it must be said, by the ESTABLISHMENT. Bastards. Ass fucking HOLES. Metaphor? He would have been better off in prison, actually being fucked up the ass. I'm sure 'they' would have liked it if they had been able to send him to prison for something, to further discredit him. I'm sure he presented a real problem for them, broken and disabled yet still trying to speak out. He had to go.
This was over overunity, not even 'real' free energy.
The morning Dad died, I awoke from a dream in which there was a very old radio tuned into a news broadcast, and the only part of it I caught was "Kenneth Smith, dead at 51..." I was in my first semester of college, living in a dorm. I got up and went to the shower, only to have my roommate interrupt it with an important phone call. It was my oldest brother, telling me Dad had died. I said, "I know..."
There was a conspiracy against me being BORN. After the youngest of my siblings was delivered, in late 1962, my mother was strongly discouraged against having any more children. During 1966 she hid the fact of her pregnancy with me until it was 'too late' for her doctor to recommend an abortion. I'm only here, in this body, because of her defiance -- and I'll have to thank her for that, again.
It's too bad she was never clued in, never knew. She met Dad in high school in the early Fifties, must have been impressed with his intellect and integrity as well as his good looks, but all too soon his work came under the perview of 'national security'. He couldn't tell her, or anyone, too much about what he did.
In case you're curious, Dad looked like a cross between Humphrey Bogart and Walter Matthau.
He was a minor player, a former Air Force man working for a major military contractor, plying his trade as an electrical engineer. If he had learned some things and had a conscience, and actively tried to sabotage the Minuteman program, good on him. After his wife and kids had left him, I can imagine that he felt he didn't have much else to lose, and started making noises. It's no surprise what happened to him after that.
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Wade's version
"In the transcript below, I have provided links to the
broader discussion of the subjects that the interview touched upon, and edited
out many of the “you knows” and similar asides. If you want to hear them all,
they are in the audio file. Editing them out makes it easier to read, in my opinion.
I also added some footnotes to provide more context, cleaned up the grammar a
little and made some corrections. My brain usually far outpaces my mouth, so
what comes out can be slurred."
Click HERE for Wade's version of the transcript.